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practicing01 · Sep 29, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Trying to find a good use for decapitate.

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I Jonas I · Sep 30, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04

1) shatterstone is terrible compared to MoI
2) Frozen Burst? What is this 2006?
3) I'm guessing this is supposed to be a clean omegaspike-type build, but you have an AoE fire ele and a PD mesmer thrown in there for no reason
4) TWO copies of flesh of my flesh??
5) Not enough weapon spells/party heals to stay alive
6) blinding Surge AND blinding flash? really?
7) You have a character whose only job is to remove enchantments
8) No Ward Against Foes/ Grasping Earth

shishkabibble · Sep 30, 2010, 01:40 AM // 01:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by I Jonas I

1) shatterstone is terrible compared to MoI
2) Frozen Burst? What is this 2006?
3) I'm guessing this is supposed to be a clean omegaspike-type build, but you have an AoE fire ele and a PD mesmer thrown in there for no reason
4) TWO copies of flesh of my flesh??
5) Not enough weapon spells/party heals to stay alive
6) blinding Surge AND blinding flash? really?
7) You have a character whose only job is to remove enchantments
8) No Ward Against Foes/ Grasping Earth

1)This is true
2) Don't fix it if it ain't broke. Offer a suggestion instead of just trolling.
3)Where do you get this from? You have aoe, uber enchant removal, and an ele spiker. Sounds more of a balanced set to me. Don't judge with no proof
4)Res sigs ftw
5)Hence the two monk optional slots. Derp
6)Is a bit redundant. Elite=blind. Replace flash with a skill that supports the rest of your build. eg: lightening bolt goes well with the glyph
7)This I do agree with. Enchantments are big in HA, but you don't need your entire build to run around it. If you want to keep the elite and change the rest.
8)No comment, haven't had enough experience with them to.

I Get Bored Eazily · Sep 30, 2010, 02:12 AM // 02:12

burst of aggression and berserker stance are both terrible skills. you're better off with something like flurry (fenzy + decap = terrible) and bulls. decap is really only a "decent" skill when you combine it with WoF so it can be spammed, but aside from that it's an overall crappy elite and is out shined by more standard bars. Don't really feel like giving my two bits about the other bars. Pretty much what jonas said.

diabiosx · Sep 30, 2010, 03:04 AM // 03:04

I think Decapitate is a useless skill. Can probably kill but i dont think you can stay alive long enough to wipe the entire team. And I can see you having problems to WoTA esurge builds(high pressure and you have no party heal)
and BBsway(pd must interupt rit spirits and if the rit can pull ur pd far enough, hes dead) Also rodgort interupted will probably make ur spikes not enough to kill

Fate Crusher · Sep 30, 2010, 07:10 PM // 19:10

Weapon of Fury > Guided Weapon. Edit: Just to elaborate, it means the warrior can bring conjure and dismember as well (first spike with dismember, second with decap, yano? lol).

Ran something similar for lols a few weeks ago with Hells. Even with 2 Rodgorts, spike was good but would prefer a 2nd warrior. simply because we had Rit in backline and didn't have enough pressure off spike, in a way (because of so many pro prots in-game....). The run was ruined anyways because of 1 fail fire ele. And for once, it wasn't Champen. <3

I Jonas I · Sep 30, 2010, 08:12 PM // 20:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by shishkabibble

1)This is true
2) Don't fix it if it ain't broke. Offer a suggestion instead of just trolling.
3)Where do you get this from? You have aoe, uber enchant removal, and an ele spiker. Sounds more of a balanced set to me. Don't judge with no proof
4)Res sigs ftw
5)Hence the two monk optional slots. Derp
6)Is a bit redundant. Elite=blind. Replace flash with a skill that supports the rest of your build. eg: lightening bolt goes well with the glyph
7)This I do agree with. Enchantments are big in HA, but you don't need your entire build to run around it. If you want to keep the elite and change the rest.
8)No comment, haven't had enough experience with them to.

1) I know it is true, that is why I said it
2) I beleive my suggestion was to take MoI, which is what you agreed with above me. In case you are dense, this is the mirror if ice ele build
3) the fact that he has decapitate, a water ele with spike skills and a character that just removes enchantments gave it away
4) that's why I said it
5) It doesn't matter what the two remaining monk bars are, you still will not have enough weapon spells/party heals to stay alive
6) why I said it, etc
7) You have two enchantment removals on your mesmer already, adding another character with FOUR more enchantment removals is just dumb
8) ...so you've never tombs'd before in your life or ???

superraptors · Sep 30, 2010, 11:42 PM // 23:42

i guess its a spike build

havent played in a year but heres my 2 cents

so..

drop frozen burst for foes, snare bar still seems really heavy on energy not sure if u can manage with with just glowing ice if ur attune gets stripped, drop 1 flesh for sig way abit overloaded on hard rez, would probably run a moi bar overall with winters embrace aswell

bsurge, drop bflash for lightningbolt / chain lightning, drop hexbreaker for aura of restoration

necro bar is garbage imo i would swap it for a rit, but dpact, foulfeast life,pot,wow,wos,resilientwep, and pod is what id run

change savannahs to mindblast

change mesmer to e-surge bar: drain ench, shatter ench, pleak,pdrain,eburn,esurge,flesh,shame

better off running a dismember bar or eviscerate with double deep wounds, no bulls and fail ias

decapitate fails cuz ur going to be taking half a minute to get charged up and your probably going to miss it

galactic · Oct 01, 2010, 04:04 AM // 04:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by practicing01

Trying to find a good use for decapitate.

decapitate is fun but lacks use outside of goofing off in RA

if you do use remember to take a -5 energy axe so you can cancle frenzy

take out berzerker's and add frenzy (you already have guided weapon)

get rid of POD (it gives away spikes) i would bring a OOS or OOB for spike support/enchant removal

bring a second warrior or swap to a ranged deep wound (like A/P incomming)

bring more res sigs

ward against foes over frozen burst (veil rapes water hexes alone)

moi>shatterstone

drop your sh (this isnt a pressure)

bring shatter delusions+mind wrack on your mes

i like hex breaker on bsurge to keep diverts away

@jonas PD is great in HA even with spike builds

Fate Crusher · Oct 01, 2010, 03:30 PM // 15:30

Still think Weapon of Fury solves the problem of not spiking enough and makes the team build more viable, you just need competent eles.

(Since everyone is saying PoD is a useless elite, there's already space for it.)

practicing01 · Oct 01, 2010, 03:44 PM // 15:44

I forgot to mention the decap build requires the war to run a zealous axe, that's enough to gain the 5 energy for enraging or berserker (you alternate due to recharge) & the 5 for boa. It takes about the same time to charge the adrenal skills as a regular evis/cow build. I figured since the current meta relies on wota for damage, blurred/snares & bsurge would be enough support for the monks. Maybe the pd should run sig hum instead of shatter. Guided is to get past wow & guardian, the pod bar has so much enchant removal because spikes will be called often (remove spirit bond & soa, guardian if guided didn't go through).